AJ Pierzynski has two minutes to speak at Ozzie Guillén’s jersey retirement Saturday. He knew days ago how he wanted to spend them, and he already ran it past his wife.
She told him not to.
The line
It started with Ozzie, years ago, describing what it was like to share a clubhouse with the catcher who spent a career irritating everyone in the sport.
“When you play against AJ Pierzynski you hate him,” Guillén said. “When you play with him you hate him a little less.”
Pierzynski turned it around. When you play against Ozzie Guillén you hate him — but when you play for him, you hate him more.
He tested it at home while drafting his speech.
“My wife Lisa, she goes, you can’t say that. He’ll get mad,” Pierzynski said on Foul Territory. “And I’m like, no, actually I said that to him and he loved that line. And I’m like, I have to throw that in there somewhere.”
Guillén confirmed it on the same show, unprompted.
“That’s the best quote I ever heard anybody say about me,” he said. “Very honest. Very right. It’s right through my head, like boom. I love it. I love it so much. I still remember very clearly what you said. It’s funny.”
Then, directly to Pierzynski: “You better use that quote.”
Pierzynski gets two minutes. Guillén gets five.
“When I said they said two minutes, I said, well, that’s because Ozzie ought to talk for 40,” Pierzynski said. “So they can only give the rest of us two minutes.”
Kansas City Royals’ Miguel Olivo is restrained by White Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski as Olivo charges the mound in the fifth inning of a baseball game Sunday, Aug. 3, 2008, in Kansas City, Mo. Olivo and White Sox pitcher D.J. Carrasco and manager Ozzie Guillen were ejected after the altercation. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)
How to watch Ozzie Guillén’s jersey retirement
- Date: Saturday, Aug. 8, 2026
- Venue: Rate Field, Chicago
- Gates open: 4:40 p.m. CT
- Ceremony: 5:15 p.m. CT
- Ceremony TV: CHSN, exclusively — also on the CHSN app
- First pitch: 6:15 p.m. CT vs. Cleveland Guardians
- Game TV: Fox, national window — AJ Pierzynski on the call
- Giveaway: First 15,000 fans receive a replica Guillén jersey
- Tickets: Sold out
The split matters. The ceremony is a CHSN exclusive and the game is on Fox, so you need both. If you only want the tribute, CHSN at 5:15. MLB.TV will black out the national Fox game and in-market White Sox broadcasts, so a live TV package with Fox is the safer route for the game.
Guillén will also join the Fox booth for an inning.
“It’d be an honor to be with you guys,” he said.
Pierzynski laid down one condition: “You can’t cuss when you come on Fox on Saturday.”
Guillén’s answer was a career summary.
“I never curse on TV. I curse when I have a uniform on. Yes, I did a lot. When I have my uniform on, oh my God, every other word. Now when I have my suit or my sport coat on, I’m very, very professional.”
The 13th to get No. 13
Guillén becomes the 13th individual in White Sox history to have his number retired, and the first manager the franchise has ever honored that way.
His number is 13.
He joins Nellie Fox (2), Luke Appling (4), Minnie Miñoso (9), Luis Aparicio (11), Paul Konerko (14), Frank Thomas (35) and Mark Buehrle (56), among others.
Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen looks at his World Series ring during ceremonies before their baseball game against the Cleveland Indians at U.S. Cellular Field in Chicago, Tuesday, April 4, 2006. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
He knows exactly what the number means and what it does not.
“Nobody retires for being nice,” he said. “When they retire your number and you’re not a Hall of Famer and you’re not in the 400, 500 home run club, 3,000 hits — you’re not even close to being part of that.”
And when it was announced in April: “They made me cry. Because I know how this moment is so important for my family. That shows you the White Sox organization care what I did for them.”
Relief for Venezuela
The White Sox are donating a portion of Saturday’s proceeds to earthquake relief and recovery in Venezuela, and Chicago White Sox Charities is running an auction with the Guillén family — exclusive experiences and memorabilia, plus direct donations.
Guillén was born in Ocumare del Tuy and came to the United States as a teenager without English. His wife Ibis joined him shortly after, also without English. They raised three sons in the Chicago area and have four grandchildren.
Forty-one years later, the franchise is retiring his number and routing money back to the country he came from.
Venezuela manager Ozzie Guillen, center, talks with plays during a pitching change in the fifth inning of a Caribbean Series baseball game against Puerto Rico, Sunday, Feb. 4, 2024, in Miami. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)
He never stopped managing his country’s baseball. The photo above is from the 2024 Caribbean Series in Miami — the annual championship of Latin American winter ball, where the club champions of Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Mexico and other member nations meet every February. In Caracas and Santo Domingo it draws an audience that dwarfs anything a regular season game produces.
The Caribbean Series 12U begins Aug. 10, running the same structure down to youth baseball across the region.
Who is on the stage
Harold Baines, Mark Buehrle and Paul Konerko will join Guillén on stage, along with Pierzynski and CHSN’s Chuck Garfien.
The crowd will include Lance Johnson, Ron Karkovice, Mike Huff, Greg Walker, Roberto Hernández, Ron Kittle, Bo Jackson, Jesse Crain, Brian Anderson, Cliff Politte, Neal Cotts, Jon Garland, José Contreras, Joe Crede and Scott Podsednik.
Ken “Hawk” Harrelson will not be there. Doctors’ appointments in Florida he could not move kept him home. He turns 85 next month.
“I’m so proud of Ozzie and I always have been,” Harrelson told MLB.com’s Scott Merkin. “Ozzie is a super guy, he really is. I love him almost like a son.”
Harrelson on Guillén the manager: “I never saw a Sox manager who was a better manager than Ozzie. He got his guys to bust their butt. And if they didn’t, he would jump all over their butt. He instills in people what I call the TWTW — the will to win.”
Ken Williams, the general manager who hired him after the 2003 season, is in Italy on a long-planned family trip. He texted Merkin: “Very happy for Ozzie and his family.”

